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Pre-Listing and Private AppraisalsBy Gordon Hall6 min read

Can an Appraiser Tell You What to List At? Market Value vs. List Price in Claremont

Why an appraiser gives an opinion of market value but never a list price, what a Claremont seller can share, and what the appraiser will not take.

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No. An appraiser develops an independent opinion of market value as of a stated date, and the list price is a different number chosen for a different purpose. Choosing it is a marketing decision the seller makes, usually with a listing agent. An appraiser who names a list price, or agrees to reach one, has stepped outside the assignment. What a pre-listing appraisal gives a Claremont seller is the opinion, the closed sales behind it and the reasoning, for the seller to weigh.

This article is part of the pre-listing and private appraisals series. For when a pre-listing report is worth ordering at all, see should you get an appraisal before selling.

Market value and list price are different numbers

Fannie Mae's Selling Guide defines market value as "the most probable price that a property should bring in a competitive and open market under all conditions requisite to a fair sale," with buyer and seller "each acting prudently and knowledgeably." It assumes a sale "as of a specified date," the effective date, which is the date the opinion of value applies to.

A list price is an asking price. It is set before any buyer has responded, it can change during the listing, and it reflects choices about timing, terms and marketing that belong to the seller and the agent. A sale price is what a particular buyer agrees to pay on particular terms. The three can match, and often they do not. Listing price, sale price, appraised value follows all three through one Claremont transaction.

Lender appraisal practice reflects the difference. Fannie Mae's guidance on comparable sales requires closed comparables and says "contract offerings and current listings can be used as supporting data, if appropriate." An asking price is evidence of what a seller hopes for, not of what a buyer paid.

Why the appraiser stays out of the list price

The opinion is only useful if no party steered it. California's statute on valuation independence, Civil Code section 1090.5, bars a person with an interest in a real estate transaction involving a valuation from trying to "improperly influence" its result. Among its examples are "Providing to a person an anticipated, estimated, encouraged, or desired valuation prior to their completion of a valuation" and "Requesting that a person provide a preliminary estimate or opinion of value prior to entering into a contract with that person for valuation services." Federal Truth in Lending rules, Regulation Z section 1026.42, carry the same idea into lending.

A list price works like a target. If an appraiser agreed to support one, the opinion would start from the answer and work backward, which is the reverse of the method. So the order of work runs one way: inspection, measurement, comparable search, adjustments, reconciliation, then the opinion. The fee is set by the scope of the assignment and quoted before work begins, and it does not depend on the value. Nothing here is legal advice; how the statute applies to a given sale is a question for an attorney.

Red flags when hiring an appraiser lists the outcome promises to watch for, and can an appraiser tell you the value before the inspection? explains why that answer is also no.

What a seller can share, and what the appraiser will not take

The same statute that bars steering also lists what is fine. Asking an appraiser to "consider additional, appropriate property information, including information about comparable properties," to give "further detail, substantiation, or explanation," or to "correct errors in a valuation report" is not prohibited.

  • Fine to share: permits and final sign-offs, plans or a survey, a dated list of improvements, HOA documents, an agent's comparative market analysis (CMA) so the report can address the same sales where they apply, and the target listing date.
  • Not an instruction: a hoped-for figure, a planned list price presented as the number to reach, or a fee tied to the result.

A CMA, an opinion of likely list or sale price prepared by a licensed real estate agent, is not an appraisal. An automated estimate from a portal, a statistical estimate from records and nearby sales, is not an appraisal either. Both can be read as context. Neither tells the appraiser where to land.

What a pre-listing appraisal gives a Claremont seller

It gives a written opinion of market value as of the effective date, with its intended use, what the report will be used for, and its intended users, the people entitled to rely on it, stated on the first page. It names the comparable sales, the closed sales of similar houses a buyer would have weighed, and explains each adjustment.

In Claremont that reasoning is pocket by pocket. A pre-1940 Craftsman near the Village and the Colleges is compared for era, detail and measured living area. A postwar ranch house is compared model to model, with garage conversions and additions checked against permits. A Claraboya or Padua Hills hillside house needs a wider foothill search, with view, grade and access each explained. Pre-listing appraisal in Claremont: three markets shows that search, and the Claremont area page describes each pocket.

What the seller and the listing agent do with that opinion is theirs to decide. The report does not recommend a list price, predict a sale price or prevent a different opinion later from the buyer's lender's appraiser, who works independently on a later effective date.

Questions an appraiser will and will not answer

QuestionAnswered?Why

What is the market value as of the inspection date?

Yes, in the report

That is the assignment

Which sales did you use, and why?

Yes

The reasoning is written out to be followed

Does my unpermitted room count?

Yes, as a method question

Permit status decides how living area is treated

What should I list at?

No

A marketing decision for the seller and agent

What will it sell for?

No

Buyers and terms decide that after the effective date

Can the report come in at a set figure?

No

An outcome request; the opinion is independent

Next step

If you want an independent opinion of market value, as of a stated date, before your Claremont house goes on the market, the pre-listing appraisal service describes the report and what to have ready. Call (909) 324-6122 to discuss the scope. Reports are typically delivered three to five business days from the inspection.

Sources

Gordon Hall, California Certified Residential Real Estate Appraiser, BREA No. AR003877 (lookup: https://www2.brea.ca.gov/breasearch/faces/party/view.xhtml?id=23601). Reports are prepared in conformity with the Uniform Standards of Professional Appraisal Practice (USPAP). Nothing here is legal or tax advice; admissibility is always the court's decision.

Frequently asked questions

Can an appraiser tell me what to list my house at?

No. An appraiser develops an independent opinion of market value as of a stated effective date. The list price is a marketing decision the seller makes, usually with a listing agent, and it can sit above or below market value for reasons an appraisal does not address.

What is the difference between market value and list price?

Market value is the most probable price a property should bring in a competitive and open market under the conditions of a fair sale, as of a stated date. A list price is an asking price, set before any buyer responds and open to change during the listing. Lender appraisal guidance treats current listings only as supporting data, not as closed sales.

Can I tell the appraiser the price I hope to list at?

Sharing a hoped-for figure as a number to reach is the kind of instruction California Civil Code section 1090.5 lists as improper influence on a valuation. What a seller can share is property information: permits, plans, a dated list of improvements, HOA documents and an agent CMA, which is not an appraisal, so the report can address the same sales where they apply. Nothing here is legal advice.

Does a pre-listing appraisal predict what my house will sell for?

No. It states market value as of its effective date. The sale price is decided later by a buyer, on terms, and the buyer's lender's appraiser forms an independent opinion of its own.

Gordon Hall

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